• Ann Somerville posted a new activity comment 5 years, 5 months ago

    “I don’t know who is right and who is wrong in your little slap fight”

    Nice. I see not only is Rebecca happy with doxxing, but so is her commentariat. No wonder victims of abuse have so much trouble being heard. ‘Little slap fight’ over someone who’s another Eron Gjonji, only with a smaller audience, indeed.

    I am done. It’s become r…[Read more]

    • No, I don’t care because you two obviously have a past that I do not have the time to look into, I literally do not care about this case. But I can see you are just as quick to jump to bullshit conclusions as your sparring partner, your initial comments were on topic and furthered the discussion but it quickly turned into a he said/she said that…[Read more]

      • You know what? You’re right. It was a horrible mistake to post about this here. Because now that woman is making fun of me and calling me an idiot and a fool on her blog, and all I did wrong was disagree with her here. I didn’t think I’d be put up for public ridicule just for disagreeing with her one time on this website. So you’re right: never…[Read more]

  • Ann Somerville posted a new activity comment 5 years, 5 months ago

    Good grief, the owner of STGRB is actually using the name of someone they harassed as their sockname:

    http://smashingreader.com/Parogar_Threatens_Avery_Duncan%E2%80%99s_Victim_i54289458

    http://smashingreader.com/Stop_the_GR_Bullies_s87889_p3

    “Kevin Weinberg” is apparently an author they targeted back in May this year (I know nothing about…[Read more]

  • Ann Somerville posted a new activity comment 5 years, 5 months ago

    “Athena Parker” is a sockpuppet and was admitted to be such on the site when it first opened. Whatever that site is saying now, makes no difference.

    And god, could you be any more obviously a sock for the actual owner of STGRB? The same person from her location who spent hours poring over my blog posts about her yesterday?

    Christ, how stupid…[Read more]

  • Ann Somerville posted a new activity comment 5 years, 5 months ago

    “Ann, you are bullying Will Shetterly and you don’t even realize you’re doing it.”

    Oh for fuck’s sake.

    “You intentionally use language that plays up your adversary’s wrongdoing in an attempt to get a “call of arms” going and get people to attack that person.”

    I am describing his wrong doing. Any ‘playing up’ is in your imagination.

  • Ann Somerville posted a new activity comment 5 years, 5 months ago

    “Sometime after that, I got this anonymous comment: “Coffeeandink should really take the “Do not engage” post down. Because every time someone links to that post and dredges up the issue yet again, her name and identity come up again as well. And if she really wants to remain anonymous (though half the internet knows her name by now), const…[Read more]

  • Ann Somerville posted a new activity comment 5 years, 5 months ago

    “You are outing me after having claimed you would stop. You are outing me after people have told you it is wrong and dangerous. You are outing me knowing nothing of my circumstances. You are outing me having been warned it could expose me to physical violence, sexual abuse, personal harassment, and professional and personal hardship.”

    That’s…[Read more]

    • Those are the words of my “victim” who, at the time, was using her legal name on public posts on her LJ, and whenever she went to a convention, she announced which panels she would be on, using her full legal name, so anyone who could Google could easily find her. The notion that she was afraid is very silly—she was trying to damn me by making i…[Read more]

      • “Sometime after that, I got this anonymous comment: “Coffeeandink should really take the “Do not engage” post down. Because every time someone links to that post and dredges up the issue yet again, her name and identity come up again as well. And if she really wants to remain anonymous (though half the internet knows her name by now), const…[Read more]

  • Ann Somerville posted a new activity comment 5 years, 5 months ago

    I note people are seeing why Will Shetterly is banned from so many online places for being a pest, and because he’s a racist, sexist abuser with a hate on for ‘SJWs’

    http://blog.logophilos.net/index.php/2014/11/will-shetterly-the-mixoning/

    But enough about him. I should clarify my remarks about doxxing. If Rebecca simply publishes the emails…[Read more]

    • Sigh. You and Coffeeandink made your histories of events that were conducted in public on the internet. In response, I’ve made mine to show what you’ve omitted—that’s how history is recorded. Unlike you, I have not banned anyone from pointing out my mistakes of fact or interpretation; anyone’s welcome to comment at my sites, and I welcome c…[Read more]

      • “You are outing me after having claimed you would stop. You are outing me after people have told you it is wrong and dangerous. You are outing me knowing nothing of my circumstances. You are outing me having been warned it could expose me to physical violence, sexual abuse, personal harassment, and professional and personal hardship.”

        That’s…[Read more]

        • Those are the words of my “victim” who, at the time, was using her legal name on public posts on her LJ, and whenever she went to a convention, she announced which panels she would be on, using her full legal name, so anyone who could Google could easily find her. The notion that she was afraid is very silly—she was trying to damn me by making i…[Read more]

          • “Sometime after that, I got this anonymous comment: “Coffeeandink should really take the “Do not engage” post down. Because every time someone links to that post and dredges up the issue yet again, her name and identity come up again as well. And if she really wants to remain anonymous (though half the internet knows her name by now), const…[Read more]

  • Ann Somerville posted a new activity comment 5 years, 5 months ago

    I have written a response to Rebecca’s post here

    http://blog.logophilos.net/index.php/2014/12/no-rebecca-watson-i-really-am-not-okay-with-doxxing/

    Which links to a post I made in 2012 on the same subject. There is also a link on a recent report I made about Shetterly and his activities over the last few years to stalk, abuse and dox women…[Read more]

    • Oh, as for Somerville and her friends’ claims about me, I answer them here: http://sjwar.blogspot.com/2014/12/how-i-became-misogynist-white.html

      My apologies to everyone who thinks Somerville’s been derailing this discussion. I suppose I could ignore her, but a surprising number of people are willing to accept allegations without investigating…[Read more]

      • You intentionally use the term Social Justice Warrior to insult and minimize people, and oppose critical race theory. Your own words damn you pretty effectively. I’ve read your words, and they tend to lead me to believe your critics. I say this as someone with no experience on either side until yesterday.

        • And that’s a fine example of how confirmation bias works.

          • I think you’re confused about how confirmation bias works. I sought out information on both sides, and noticed that you don’t understand the importance of intersectionality and critical race theory. That’s not confirmation bias. Confirmation bias is noticing only that some racists dislike someone, and assuming that person must not be racist,…[Read more]

            • You’re on the side that accepts Critical Race Theory and intersectionality, the identitarian approaches to justice that were developed and promoted by bourgeois folk at schools for the economic elite. It’s no surprised that you prefer to believe people who are like you.

              Essentially, you understand power the way Malcolm X did in 1963 while he…[Read more]

          • Equality with no thought of fairness is not equality.

            • I agree. In fact, I would say that “equality with no thought of fairness” is neither equality nor fairness. But identitarians have many special meanings for words, so it’s possible I’m missing your implication. Can you unpack that a little?

          • No, I don’t think so. I’ve got better things to do then argue semantics with someone who incorrectly equates identitarians with loaded ideas about “social justice warriors”.

            I know the type and I’m not going there.

          • You think you know everything but you are a fool.

            • I’ve noticed that identitarians turn abusive quickly. When you don’t have history or science on your side, insults are all that remain.

              I’ve also noticed that insults tell you more about the person giving the insult than the person getting it. You would do well to read more about race, gender, and class. I recommend starting with Adolph Reed…[Read more]

          • Abusive, seriously? You are identifying me with a racist movement that I have nothing in common with and me calling you a fool is abusive?

            Do me a favor and fuck off!
            Oh, and don’t go doxxing me on the way out.

          • And BTW, I think you’ve proved Ann Sommerville correct sufficiently at this point.

          • You used a word that I was unfamiliar with and the first few definitions I found were the European version, so yes that was the one I was speaking of.

            But, having read (part of, I’ve got shit to do) the article you linked to and some of your blog it appears you have decided that SJWs are the equivalent, and nothing more, then teenagers on…[Read more]

          • How can you look at a system which produces poor people in Hispanic and black populations at ~2.5 times the rate it does in the white population and deny that there is some sort of endemic systemic racism there? Further, if you want an example of confirmation bias, combining the numbers of whites and Hispanics in poverty to deny systemic racism…[Read more]

            • I haven’t denied racism, and as for that stats, I’ve given you the option; if you want to leave out the Hispanic folks who identify as white, you can, and there are still twice as many white people in poverty as black. Now, it seems kind of racist to not let people identify as they wish, but if you want to say those Hispanic people are wrong to…[Read more]

  • Ann Somerville posted a new activity comment 5 years, 5 months ago

    I think you should check out what Shetterly writes on his blog before you believe his account of his behaviour.

  • Ann Somerville posted a new activity comment 5 years, 5 months ago

    “Please also remember that white hats not doxxing will not prevent black hats from doing so.”

    No, but the *only* thing that gives them pause at all is the possible moral opprobium. The gentleman above in this convo who doxxed me has spent the last five years vehemently denying and defending his doxxing of another woman, and is a pariah in our…[Read more]

  • Ann Somerville posted a new activity comment 5 years, 5 months ago

    “That where this gets funny, because people who disagree with you on various issues can simply claim that they are arbiters of who it is OK to dox, on exactly the same standing.”

    This is the crux of the matter. Once you say a loathsome tactic is okay, then it will be used against you, and other people, regardless of merit. Because there’s…[Read more]

    • Any action is appropriate in certain circumstances, and not in others. A hug is a great example. Even with the same two people involved, it can be either appropriate or inappropriate. Everyone has to come up with their set of moral standards, and then do their best to live within those standards. If you feel that doxxing is inappropriate in…[Read more]