• Isis the Scientist wrote a new post, Lessons From Amy Cooper and Franklin Templeton, on the site Skepchick 1 month, 2 weeks ago

    Last night I started seeing posts pop up in my social media feed from a bird watcher who was accosted by a white woman while watching in Central Park. It absolutely broke my heart. Take a look at Amy Cooper’s […]

    • >She is reminding him that white people have the privilege of deciding which laws are applicable to them

      To be fair, it isn’t ‘white people’ in this case, it’s ‘white women’. It’s probably best to be more specific if you’re ascribing fault to a collective numbering in hundreds of millions of people.

      Having said that, I too was shocked how casually this woman decided to lie (and employ hysterics for maximum emotional manipulation) to authorities and invoke her white-woman privilege to get a black man in trouble for NOTHING (actually worse than nothing because she was actually doing something wrong). What if there was no video and we just had her word against his? What would we do then? Doesn’t this reinforce the need for a due process anytime serious allegations are made against someone? Doesn’t this strongly suggest that, for example, Obama-era Title IX guidance which basically took due process away from accused students, are an injustice in itself?

      >I have a strong suspicion that no one in leadership at Franklin Templeton would be afraid to call the police.

      So you can just tell what people are and think and believe just by looking at their profile pictures? Is that a skill you learn or are born with?

      • As a side note, have you looked at the staff here at skeptchick? I have a strong suspicion that no one in leadership at Skeptchick would be afraid to call the police either.

      • Writing as a white man, you’re definitely wrong. We don’t even have to act out “hysterics for maximum emotional manipulation”, as you put it. We just ask.

        What you’re noticing there isn’t extra bonus free privilege white women get. It’s a reflection of the subservient role women are expected (by some) to play. It’s not enough to request, it has to be performed as a desperate plea for help from someone nominally expected to act too weak and helpless to defend themselves. It’s a bullshit dance demanded by those with the most power (us, I’m afraid), before help is bestowed.

        • >Writing as a white man, you’re definitely wrong.

          Is that right? Have you been elected the spokesperson for white men?

          But I’m glad (really, I am) you had a very privileged life where everything was handed to you solely due to your gender and skin colour. But that’s not the experience of the vast majority of people – and perhaps you shouldn’t project your privilege on others. Try travelling through some of the poor rural or working-class communities and tell those people how much privilege they have. Life isn’t easy for anybody (white or black), and we’re all trying to do our best to make it through the week, and you’re purposely gaslighting when you say your skin color makes it easy.

          >What you’re noticing there isn’t extra bonus free privilege white women get. It’s a reflection of the subservient role women are expected (by some) to play. I

          Umm.. What? We have a video of a white woman lying to the police and purposely engaging in emotional manipulation… so what are you even talking about? She was lying, presumably because she was angry at the gentleman and wanted to get him in maximum trouble by invoking his race in the call. Women are people, and people lie if they can get away with it and if there’s an incentive to – there is a famous American novel that deals with this, perhaps you heard of “To Kill a Mockingbird”? … so how is that a “reflection of the subservient role women are expected (by some) to play”

          • Kid, the very first thing you did here, your first line. was to put all the blame on white women, implicitly exonerating white men. That’s the bit you got wrong, and that’s the only part of your comment I was addressing.

    • I don’t know about the company’s current policies. But the ‘Templeton’ in question is the Templeton investment empire; founded by Sir John Templeton of ‘Templeton Prize’ fame. A big fake sciency award given to religious apologists every year. Though they also managed to reward Mother Teresa (1973) and Billy Graham (1982)